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If you hippies are gonna go on and on about how the border patrol does this and how they do that at least research it and make accurate accusations. Everything is completely exaggerated or a total lie. Another thing about this no border idea that you think is so damn smart, not every person is coming here to work and exploit our tax dollars, a good majority are criminals. From rapists to wife beaters to drug offenses, DUI's and even murders.' If you only new how many of them were caught each day. One more thing... Dancing and singing and all the hippie bull shit you do at the fence does not help your cause, it just makes you look like a bunch of idiots.
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Fighting back only encourages them
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I could have given my opinion in this matter but that would not have mattered to much, so instead I give you what is written in the Holy Bible, the book that our founding fathers turned to when they were creating the Constitution of the United States. I hope that this would reveal to you why we must have laws, and yes, even borders.
Romans 13
Submission to the Authorities
1)Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2)Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3)For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4)For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5)Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. 6)This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7)Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
To the men and women of the U.S. Border Patrol, I thank you for the job you do.
A young Mexican-American living on the Texas-Mexico Border
God and the State
Young Mexican-American on the Texas/Mexico border you seem to conveniently forget that the Bible in no way sanctions total unconditional obedience towards secular authorities but instead sanctions submission (not obedience) to the authorities only as far as their demands do not contradict and go against gods own commandments, this because sincere Christians serve only one master, God as commanded to in the following Biblical passage:
Matthew 6:24: "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other…"
And according to Christ in Mark 12 the greatest commandment was that:
"You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and the first commandment. The second resembles it: you must love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets" .
Thus any secular law or authority that goes against these two commandments is not to be submitted to by sincere Christians. A sincere Christian will not submit to a commandment by an earthly authority that will place him outside of god’s commandments, this would seem especially to apply to the above two greatest commandments as illuminated by Christ. At the very least Christians have a duty not to call upon the authorities to enforce such laws nor take part in the enforcement of those laws themselves.
Now is advocating a militarized border manned by armed guards that has caused over 400 desperate people to die of thirst, exposure and exploitation in the Calexico/Mexicali area alone simply because the authorities label them as ‘aliens’ a sincere way of following god’s commandment to “love your neighbor as yourself”? If it seems so then it seems that one has accepted a very odd interpretation of scripture. Borders are an impediment towards sharing the natural wealth of the world with our neighbors in a way that tries to be sincerely mutually beneficial to all. Borders also stand as an impediment towards Christian solidarity, a solidarity and love that knows no conditionally and certainly no borders.
For Christians I recommend the following articles below for an understanding of Romans 13, 1-7 seemingly not considered by those who attempt to use it as a justification for unconditional obedience to secular authority .
http://romans13.embassyofheaven.com/understanding.htm
http://www.jesusradicals.com/essays/theology/Romans13.htm
http://www.harmlessasdoves.com/romans13.html
Anti-authoritarian agnostics and atheists could also benefit from reading those articles as aid in countering authoritarians who attempt to use Christianity as a justification for authoritarian rule.
T.Rios
Hey, great video... Really
Hey, great video... Really shows a sophisticated movement espousing the principles of peaceful demonstration, not just a bunch of ignorant drug addled fools demonstrating against a cause they obviously know nothing about. Whoever said that was the case is sooooooo obviously wrong.
Horraaah, you have done so much to further your cause! You are heroes! Viva la gente contra las fronteras!!! Porque ellos estan estupido... Sorry my spanish is not that good because I live in the United States, you know the country with freedom of speech, which those border patrol agents seemed to respect until you acosted them and flaunted your flawed ideology. Anyway viva free speech and peaceful demonstration however misinformed it may be, however the un-necessary violence that was caused by no borders camp was obviously wrong and minimizes any potential credibility.
Besides if you want to support George W. Bushes vision of the future and a United North America than by all means say good bye to borders and hello to a new class based society that subjugates the southern frontier for cheap labor and development. Have a good day folks I look forward to your well informed responses.
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why dont people realize, illegal means, illegal, whats keeping them from filling out nationalization papers? or joining the military? they could even do a support job which has minimal exposure to anything moderately dangerous. theres plenty of jobs there. no they do it the easy way and cross the border. breaking the law, bringing criminals and drugs. (the border patrol just caught 300 lbs of marijuana getting brought in)